>>>I nearly bought Protel because it supposedly makes this 3D capability >>>automatic >I bought Orcad a while back, because they said that the non-demo version >would work with Pro-E for 3-D modeling.. They lied. Well, it does have the ability to export a footprint size and height, that can be imported. Your components look like boxes rather Dave's nice components, but it does allow clearances to be checked. We use that ability here. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist