I think there should be a nice PDF for ProProg since it is supposed
to be a professional programmer. Of course for the US$59 EasyProg,
there should also be a simpler PDF (like Kitsrus) for it as well.

I still think a nice casing would increase the appeal of ProProg.
It can be an optional item though. It is said that "the ProProg 
is a brick outhouse industrial strength design where utility and 
robustness were more important than price". For me something
without a casing is not really robust enough. Maybe I am wrong.

Glad to know that both PCBs are actually produced in China. Sorry 
to ask but I am just a bit curious. How do you establish the contact
there? Are you doing it through a middle-man since there are some
language barriers for smaller prototyping house? 

I was also wondering if the cost can be reduced if you changed the 
part of EasyProg to SMD and reflow most of the SMD parts. Then the PCB 
can be much smaller and the end-user will have less troubles.
Maybe they also lose the pleasure of actually building a programmer. :)
I admit that I am not a hobbyist so I do not quite understand the
pleasure of actually building a programmer with all the parts ready. 
So maybe this is not an option after all.

Xiaofan

> -----Original Message-----
> 
> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 08:12:11 -0500
> From: olin_piclist@embedinc.com (Olin Lathrop)
> 
>> A nice PDF datasheet including all the things scattered all over
>> the embedinc website will help to sell as well. :)
> 
> Do you mean specifically for the ProProg or other stuff like the PIC
> development environment too?   

>> PCB cost can be significantly reduced by making them in other
>> countries.
> 
> They already are.  The PCBs for both programmers are produced 
> in China.
> 

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