Hello Piclisters; I have been lurking here for sometime now and have enjoyed reading the posts . I have 2 questions that I would like to ask . 1) I have a P16Pro programmer using the Picall software. Up to now everything worked fine until I tried to program a P16F628A (the 16F628 programs fine). Does anyone know why the "A" version won't program? I have tried different timings and configuration register settings, it does seem to erase the chip though. 2) There is only a couple of days left to order Microchips ICD2 and I was wondering if I can use it as a device programmer as well as a debugger? (looking for a reason to buy it). Thanks in advance for any help. N. Crocker -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 12/26/2004 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist