I've done some more tinkering today and think it's as good as it's going to get, and is totally acceptable. This arrangement really suits me because of constraints within the case. A LED can now go under the overhang of the LCD past the end of the driver IC, which was previously unused space http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/led+lcd.html Had quick play with red LEDs and the new diffuser. Better illumination but still looks odd (every backlight I've ever seen has been yellow/green/blue). May suit the right application -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist