Josh, thanks for info re dots and reflecting. I'll get some stuff together and make an evening of it > I'm not so surprised you are up at 7AM on boxing day fretting about > this...you were up last night fretting about non demoninational > holiday greetings :) Hmmm, oh yeah (Christmassy related - gave my nephew, a big Iron Maiden fan, a "Grim Reaper plasma ball". Took him all of two minutes to discover if he put his hand all over it he could shock his sister with the other, the little monster ;-)))) ) > Oh, and the via thing...a via is just another plated through hole. > Would your board house charge you if you had a board with another > 50 holes in it ? Yes. I'd expect a charge for the hole of course but I've no idea how much the plating of the vias is. If I can get satisfactory backlighting with the components as they are then the cost of vias would be academic (for now) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist