www.redsound.com/djindex.htm I was looking idly at such things last week. They are are doing another batch of the bpm units that output midi in the next couple of weeks, but they are more than I hoped to spend too - that always suggests its more complicated than it seems. Merry Xmas Nick >There is a company (whose name >eludes me at the moment...Red Box, or something similar) that make a >unit capable of dealing with complex beats. It's also a bit more >expensive that I'd like. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist