Alan B. Pearce wrote: >> without a wall wart but throw in a 1.3mm plug > > Not sure what you mean with this plug. I would have thought the 2.5mm > version of the plug that Microchip supply on the ICD and Picstart Plus > would be the most universal. 2.5mm does seem to be more common. I chose 1.3mm for the EasyProg primarily because that's what comes on the particular wall wart I chose for it. And I chose that wall wart because it is in the right voltage range and because it is significantly cheaper than just about every other wall wart I've seen. This is all fine for those with US power. There is no reason for them to care about 1.3mm versus anything else if the appropriate wall wart is included. Since 1.3mm is less common than other sizes, like 2.5mm, I will include a bare plug in the non-US version. This plug is intended for the end user to solder their own wires to it. It wouldn't take anyone familiar with a soldering iron more than a couple of minutes to cut the plug off of whatever wall wart (or any source of power) they want to use for the EasyProg and attach the supplied 1.3mm plug instead. If someone already has or can get an appropriate wall wart with 1.3mm plug, then they end up with an extra 1.3mm plug. It's cheap enough that it's not worth making yet another version of the kit without the plug. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist