I have received quotes on getting individual complete kits for the EasyProg PIC programmer (http://www.embedinc.com/easyprog). The question now is do you think hobbyists would buy them at $59 plus shipping? This would include the board and all the parts so you could build your own unit, plus the wall wart and serial cable - truly all parts you need for an operational unit. I'm not really trying to make money on the EasyProg, and this price includes only the slimmest of margin. OK I might as well tell you, my cost is $31 for the kits in quantity 50, $4 for the boards in quantity 100, probably $1-2 in packaging, $2 to have them sent out, for a total cost of $39. It could never be sold as a for-profit product anywhere near $59, although hobbyists often don't understand that. You not only get all the parts, but a lot of engineering and verification done for you. The value is good, but the real question is will anyone shell out $60 for a kit no matter how good it is? Any other suggestions for a price? Even if hobbyist time is considered free, what about hassle factor? We see people here regularly having problems with various dubious "no parts", "el-cheapo", or whatever programmers. Is $60 worth the frustration or does that not count? (I'm really asking). I'd like to offer the kit, but I don't want to spend almost $2000 (boards are already in stock) to find out it is either priced too high to sell or too low to ever get my money back. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist