A message on behalf of "the madscientist" who mysteriously got plunked... i'm temporarily off list for as yet unspecified reasons (since yesterday, i'm somewhat upset that i was banned without even being told why, the list owner is working on finding out who did it and why...). in any case, miller stephenson (www.miller-stephenson.com) makes and excellent contact cleaner and lubricant that works on any sliding contacts (not good on the old ram that just presses against the contacts) and it's fantastic! even better they will sample you a bottle or aerosol can for $5. the stuff works great on edge connectors, ram chips, connectors of any kind, and should work great on sockets as well. you should give them a look. they will sample many of their products for $5 or sell a dozen mixed cans at once (i usually just sample, though i did get one place i worked to buy from them, great stuff all around!). you might forward this to the list, or at least the recommendation of miller stephenson. they even seem to be reasonably environmentally motivated. Rick Thompson wrote: >A trick I learned out of frustration one day on a board that didn't have >ICSP was to dump dry graphite lubricant (the fine powder stuff that is used >for key tumblers) right into the socket cups. Then inserted & removed a >dummy chip a couple of times, then blew all the free graphite out of the >socket out with canned air. This lessened the removal force a significant >amount. Of course I wouldn't do this to anything other than a proto board. > > Rick > > >> If you must perform a lot of insertions, the best way is to solder >> a ZIF socket onto a pin header. Insert the pin header into your socket >> and insert the PIC into the ZIF socket. >> >> Without doing that, the lifetime of most PIC chips is about 30 insertions >> and removals. >> _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist