On Dec 17, 2004, at 8:56 AM, Bob Ammerman wrote: > My 14 y.o. son programs in the following environments: > > 2) Using GameMaker - a development environment using an object > oriented model and C-like syntax to design computer games. "Gamemaker" sounds interesting. Is that http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/markov/gmaker/ ? I'm not overly picky about (for instances) basic's "improper teaching of fundamental concepts (gotos considered evil!)", but I was hoping for something that would create programs more like the programs kids today actually use. Being constrained to a TTY-like I/O system would not be good. I'll have to look at that smalltalk environment; I bounced off smalltalk circa 1985 when I noticed how inefficiently it used the then-SOTA sun workstation, but I guess a modern PC might have enough horsepower to change things :-) And thanks to whoever mentioned open office macros; A neat idea, again putting the programming into the more "typical" environment. She's already fiddling with raw HTML, Office macros that make that easier might be right up her alley... BillW _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist