> subtle distinctions like whether such a science is actually a > science, and if so, why, are usually considered heretic. I always love to be a heretic for a good cause! I don't object to taking the disciplines you mention serious, but they should not be grouped in the same category as the hard scieces. Call them weak sciences, or call the real ones hard sciences, but don't mix them. And note that a (small) part of medicine, sociology etc. actually *is* (hard) science. And last: don't call mathematics science, it is something different alltogether. I was always opposed to calling the education I enjoyed 'computer science'. There are some scientific corners in it, and some more matematics, but most of it is just craftmanship. Usefull in its own way of course, but not science. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist