Olin Lathrop wrote: > I just want to make it clear to everyone that this is the > pinout of the jack on the ICD2 or any compatible programmer. > When using the standard Microchip ICD2 cable, the target board > needs to be a mirror image of this. In other words, pin 1 is > Vpp, pin 2 Vdd, pin 3 GND, etc. Ken Pergola wrote: > Yes, Microchip supplies the ICD 2 with a 'cross-over' modular cable. > If one deviates from this [...] pinning and uses a 'straight-through' > modular cable, then their target pinout will not match The cross-over modular cable is is, by far, the most common style. It follows telephone industry practice. Since Microchip chose to use a 6-position modular jack (i.e. RJ11/RJ12 style) on the ICD2, they should expect people will use "normal" cables. The cable used in most RJ11/RJ12 telephone cables has a flat jacket, frequently called silver satin. Look closely and you'll see that it usually has a raised ridge on one side. When the cable is installed in a crimp-on modular plug, the raised ridge is installed facing the same way on both ends -- thus, each cable has a built-in crossover (end A pin 1 goes to end B pin 8, A pin 2 goes to B pin 7, etc). Making a straight-through cable requires flipping the cable over on one end. It's easy to do ... but it's _very_ rarely done. Lee Jones _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist