Totally agree with Bob. The tiny flimsy cabe caused quite some problem for us. I also have to mark the connection in order not to make wrong connection. For debugging, it is so-so, can be used but not great. For ICSP programming,it is not so bad. Xiaofan >Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:15:48 -0700 >From: Bob Axtell > >Seems to be OK, but not as useful as I'd hoped. While the RJ12 connector >is handy, having only one tiny, flimsy wire to make a GND connection >has turned out to be a problem. MUCH more reliable if >you take the shoeshine-wax case apart, locate GND, and connect an >external GND clip of #22 hi-flex wire >to your prototype PCB. > >Also the published connections for the ICD2 RJ12 are incomprehensable. >To clearly understand it, you will need to locate which wire is GND >and work out in both directions from there. Otherwise, you will >reverse the connections the first time. >I wouldn't bother; I'd get a KitsRUs K128; it costs the same price. _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist