Sorry to hear of you misfortune. Stuff like this has happened to me enough times that I don't mess around with trying to build my own pcs anymore. In the end the frustration just isn't worth it. With how low the retail manufacturers are selling pcs for its almost not worth trying to build your own pc unless you want a highly customized one. Take the Dell Poweredge SC400 for instance. Last year Dell had a deal on them for $300 ea, free shipping within the US, free upgrade to a P4 2.8GHz, 40GB HD, 128MB RAM, no OS. Made for a perfect reliable Linux desktop machine with a bit of additional memory from pricewatch. I think their latest similar product is the SC420. Makes for a good desktop. Have no association with Dell (in fact they are not even my first choice in PCs) but their prices almost can't be beat. Plus you get that no hassle warranty. Shahid -----Original Message----- From: Robert Rolf [mailto:Robert.Rolf@ualberta.ca] Posted At: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:00 PM Posted To: PICList Conversation: [OT] Beware IDIOT!! assemblers of PC power connectors. Subject: [OT] Beware IDIOT!! assemblers of PC power connectors. I just put together a new PC with a brand new high end motherboard and 16X DVD-DL writer. The person who assembled the power cables reversed the 12V and 5V pins on one of them, so naturally the drive is now fried (magic smoke is gone), as is the m/b since the 12V went back down the ATA cable and smoked the highly integrated interface chip. What really burns is that this is the exact SAME stupidity that happened to me 10 years ago and that one blew up a $650 SCSI hard drive. Naturally the dealer who sold me the high end case refused to do anything about their 'unfit' product since 'we didn't make it'. As a result of their poor response I took over $10k in ongoing corporate business elsewhere. **** Please learn from my $300+ stupidity. **** ALWAYS CHECK that EVERY!!! power cable is wired correctly before applying power. A voltmeter check is probably also a good idea since it wouldn't surprise me that the meager wage Taiwan assemblers would mess up the colors at the power supply too. I posted this rant to a local users group list, and have had enough people reply that they have also had this happen to THEM that I thought I'd warn a larger audience of this 'unmentioned' problem. It doesn't seem to matter whether it is low end or high end power supplies, assemblers ARE making mistakes and the Q/C people are NOT catching the errors. Is this a common problem out there, or have I and the local computer people just had a lot of bad luck? Robert Steaming mad at the idiot assembler and myself for getting burned yet AGAIN! Complacency is COSTLY. _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist