Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: >Hi. >I've been thinking of the issue of ICSP of the 10Fs in SOT23 packages. > >The "product" will be very small (one 10F/SOT23, one SMD LED and >a few SMD passives, probably just 10x10 to 15x15 mm's). > >The two methods I've thought about are : > >1. Using a bed-of-nails using "pogo" pins. >Pro: easier to lay out the PCB. The ICSP-pads could be anyware. >Con : a bit more complicated hardware setup. Have to make a fixture >with the pogo pins and probably a couple of indexing pins with matching >holes in the PCB. > > > I've done the pogo pins bit before. No extra alignment posts are needed if you make the pads thru-holes and use the chiseled probes. The probes are almost self-aligning. You can probe from the top (just holding the probe array), or probe from the bottom in the usual way. I like arranging 5 pads on 2mm or 2.54mm centers in a line. >2. Using contact fingers on one side and a PCD edge connector. >Pro : Reasonable easy harware setup using a standard connector. >Con : Have to route the signals to the edge of the PCB and possible >have the extra space for the depth of the connector. > > > You will have poor results because the contact point pressure is too low; if the PCB is not very clean, or if the surface is slightly oxidized, you can't cut through. A good way to do this (what I did for Imagic in 198X) was to design a test station with the important contacts taken to the edge of the PCB, like conductive ribbons of tinned copper; when the PCB array was properly inserted, photo-sensors would cause the probes to be forced against an almost arbitrary point on each conductive ribbon. VERY fast testing ; 12 PCB's was tested at the same time, with LED's indicating which PCBs were OK & which were bad. We tested and sorted Good/Bad for 12 PCB's in less than 1sec each. NOTE: Pogo pins have a finite lifetime, usually 10K actuations. Usual failure is the internal springs breaking. This has to be monitored. >I don't want any additional hardware (connector) directly on the PCB. >I'm hoping to be able to make a few 100's of these... > > --Bob -- Note: Attachments must be sent to attach@engineer.cotse.net, and MAY delay replies to this message. 520-219-2363 _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist