Hi. I've been thinking of the issue of ICSP of the 10Fs in SOT23 packages. The "product" will be very small (one 10F/SOT23, one SMD LED and a few SMD passives, probably just 10x10 to 15x15 mm's). The two methods I've thought about are : 1. Using a bed-of-nails using "pogo" pins. Pro: easier to lay out the PCB. The ICSP-pads could be anyware. Con : a bit more complicated hardware setup. Have to make a fixture with the pogo pins and probably a couple of indexing pins with matching holes in the PCB. 2. Using contact fingers on one side and a PCD edge connector. Pro : Reasonable easy harware setup using a standard connector. Con : Have to route the signals to the edge of the PCB and possible have the extra space for the depth of the connector. I don't want any additional hardware (connector) directly on the PCB. I'm hoping to be able to make a few 100's of these... Any thoughts ? Regards, Jan-Erik. _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist