On Thu, 25 Nov 2004, Olin Lathrop wrote:

>> P.s. Does this type of signing mess up anyones client view?  It's
>> messy, and to be honest it doesn't really verify that I am who I say
>> (unlike digital certificates).  Still it's something.

I did not notice any problems using pine, thunderbird, mozilla or opera 
(testing).

> You can see above what it looked like in MS Outlook Express on Windows 2000.
> Still annoyingly messy, but I would probably read it some of the time.
> Can't you just lose the silly signature and send plain text like most
> everyone else?

Er, most people likely cannot see what it looked like to you because the 
quoted piece looks ok here. It is probably a font/encoding issue and you 
(and probably other OE users who have the same settings) are the only ones 
seeing it.

> On a different but somewhat related subject:  I was looking thru the
> archives and noticed something strange.  For most posters, the comment field
> of the FROM address was shown in a listing of messages.  This is usually the
> person's plain text name.  However, on my postings it used the user name
> portion of my email address even though a perfectly valid comment with my
> name was supplied.  In other words, my posts are listed as "olin_piclist"
> instead of "Olin Lathrop".
>
> I can't see the difference in what I'm sending out compared to what others
> are sending out that works correctly.  Here is the appropriate line from one
> of my messages as I received it back from the list:
>
>  From: olin_piclist at embedincdotcom (Olin Lathrop)
>
> (I obfuscated the actual address a bit).  Here is an example of identical
> syntax as best I can tell that shows up correctly in the archives:
>
>  From: A.B.Pearce at rldotacdotuk (Alan B. Pearce)
>
> (same obfuscation applied).  What's the differnce?  What is causing the
> archives web server to interpret these differently?  I'm not complaining
> since I can't see how this hurts me, but it's very curious and the answer
> might be illuminating.

You have set OE to filter piclist through that handle probably (folder or 
filter rule name or whatever OE uses). Your headers look like this in a 
plain text mail reader (pine) (I obfuscated the address as you did, with 
DOT):

Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:49:02 -0500
From: Olin Lathrop <olin_piclist@embedincDOTcom>
Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. <piclist@mit.edu>
To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. <piclist@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [PIC]: Newbie needs help

OE takes Olin Lathrop <olin_piclist@embedinc.com> and smartly makes it to

From: olin_piclist at embedincdotcom (Olin Lathrop)

as you noticed. On other mailreaders this is called a role (that of poster 
to/from this list). I am sure that there is a mickeymouse name for it 
(look for something that begins with Micro... ) and that you can change it 
somewhere in OE.

Digital signatures should start being used everywhere slowly slowly. And 
then they won't be enough and only crypted mail will be acceptable.

Peter
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