Hi: A couple of years ago got some 10 Mhz unit oscillators which clock the PIC and firmware divides that down to 1 Pulse Per Second and measured the period with a very good measurement system. I went through maybe a half dozen unit oscillators (each from a different manufacturer) purchased from different distributors and NONE of them were any good. They ALL were leaking which shows up in the aging plot. The custom built units I got from Sentry behave as they should. Sentry Excel data on request. I expect that there may be a similar leakage problem with crystals. The only way to know is to age them and see how they do. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke, N6GCE Mendocino County California where fine wines are aged. -- w/Java http://www.PRC68.com w/o Java http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml http://www.precisionclock.com _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist