William Chops Westfield wrote: >> A good rule of thumb is that the total compensation cost and directly >> related expenses for an employee is 15% above what is actually >> paid to the employee. > > Really? FICA by itself is 6+ percent, Actually it's more like 7.5%. > and there's the employer side > contributions to medicare, disability, medical, dental, and life > insurance. But only the medicare is mandatory. I wasn't counting benefits, only the pure overhead on top of what the employee gets paid that isn't optional. The other 5% or so after FICA and medicare comes from workers comp insurance and mostly other insurance costs that are proportional to payroll. > Then there's vacation/sick leave (5 weeks out of 52 is > almost > 10 percent by itself), Not for hourly workers. And 5 weeks is a lot, especially for low end jobs. The typcial is 10 holidays (2 weeks) and another 2 weeks of vacation. Again, this isn't relevent for hourly workers. > retirement benefits (if any), Again, optional. > and overhead costs (HR, payroll, etc) As I said before, these were not included in the 15% figure, although small companies don't really have much HR expense. > I thought we used 50% as a guideline. Or maybe it was $50k/employee? That sounds much more like the fully burdened cost. I think you misunderstand the 15% figure. This is the additional overhead that is directly proportional to pay that the employer can't really do anything about. In other words, if I'm thinking of hiring you for 100K/year, I immediately think 115K/year cost. Then I add on other things that might or might not apply, like medical insurance, special equipment you might need, additional space I may need to rent, additional load on management, etc. That second figure is often termed the "fully burdened" cost. That's the figure I keep in mind as my break even rate if I charge out your time. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist