Thanks very much for the detailed descriptions Russell. Cheers, Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu > [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu]On Behalf > Of Russell McMahon > Sent: 24 November 2004 12:06 > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [EE] Why specify one kind of capacitor over another? > > > > ..I was wondering why you would choose one type of > capacitor over another > > in > > given applications. > > > > I notice that the example cct on a datasheet for the LM317LZ vreg > > specifies > > 0.1uF electrolytic, but has onother in a different part of > the circuit > > that > > isn't electrolytic. Why might that be? > > Beginners - Save this as a tutorial AFTER other guys have pointed out > shortcomings, added to it and generally hacked it about. > > Different dielectric materials have different characteristics. > Some of the key parameters that can be affected are > > - Size > - Cost > - Stability with temperature or voltage or age > - Voltage breakdown per size. > - Repeatability of capacitance between units > - Susceptibility to mechanical affects > - Generation of voltages under mechanical affects > - Polarity sensitivity (or not) > - Electrical leakage. > - Loss > - ESR > - AC impedance with frequency > - more > > Many of these are inter-related, and to variable extents with > different > materials. > > > Electrolytics (there are a number of types but this usually > means Aluminium > wet electrolytic) are relatively low cost per capacitance and > low size per > capacitance. They have the disadvantages of polarity > sensitivity, limited > lifetimes, life time decreases with increasing temperature > and more. They > are very commonly used when large capacitance is needed and > low price is > important. > > There is almost never a good reason to specify a 0.1 uF > electrolytic. This > capacity achieved with a cheap, small non polar capacitor of better > electrical characteristics. if the data sheet says 0.1 uF > electrolytic it is > probably a designer being lazy. SOMETIMES a regulator's > stability may > benefit from an electrolytics inferior ESR but this is > unusual. usually > using a 0.1 uF ceramic or mylar would work well. > > There are much better descriptions on web but here are a few comments: > All non-polar except electrolytics. > > Polystyrene - Bulky. dearer. excellent accuracy > repeatability. Less common. > > Mylar (Polycarbonate) - moderate size, good stability and > lifetime, moderate > cost. > > Tantalum electrolytic - high capacitance per size, excellent > low impedance, > dangerously prone to very hard short circuit due to > overvoltage. Risky in > low impedance high energy circuits. > > Ceramic - CHEAP, excellent capacitance per size, bad temperature > coefficient (varies with type), can have dangerous voltage > spike generation > when subject to step voltages,. Much used for decoupling. Cheap and > cheerful. > > Aluminium electrolytic. As above: relatively low cost per > capacitance and > low size per capacitance. Polarity sensitivity, limited > lifetimes, life time > decreases with increasing temperature. Deteriorate even more > rapidly with > increasing temperature when unpowered. Poorish ESR decreases > with lifetime. > Caustic innards. > > Aluminium solid electrolytic. All the advantages of tantalum > electrolytics > and none of the disadvantages. Dearer than wet electrolytic. High > capacitance per size. Medium price. Compact for voltage. Excellent for > decoupling and power supplies generally. > > Many more .... > > > > Someone else add to this ... > > > RM > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > ============================================================================== This message is for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you received this message in error please delete it and notify us. If this message was misdirected, CSFB does not waive any confidentiality or privilege. CSFB retains and monitors electronic communications sent through its network. Instructions transmitted over this system are not binding on CSFB until they are confirmed by us. Message transmission is not guaranteed to be secure. ============================================================================== _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist