I guess that that indicates progress of some sort! Can you check if the ocsillator is actually running - scope or radio receiver etc. Alternatively, program it to run on the RC oscillator & see if the behaviour is musch the same. Otherwise I'm starting to run out of ideas. RP >>Have you tried an external pullup on the / MCLR pin? I just added a 4.7Kohm pull-up resistor between the MCLR pin and 5 volts. Now the led stays on all the time. If I put my thumb (finger) on top of the pic there is no longer any oscillation. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [EE]: 12C508A with Xtal Won't Oscillate > > Have you tried an external pullup on the / MCLR pin? > RP > _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist