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Mcgee, Mark wrote:

>>It's an admission by the vendor that they believe the major value of 
>>their
>>"hobby kit" is in the firmware inside the PIC.  Or maybe wishful 
>>thinking,
>>but as Olin says, it's their choice.
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>>Now, a lot of "hobby kits" with such "valuable firmware" can be easily
>>duplicated using firmware that's been published on the net, at some
>>greater level of effort.
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>I can see why somebody would want to protect the code in a PIC - it's their
>intellectual property, possibly months/years of R&D and the expense that goes
>with it, that can be handed to a competitor for peanuts if it's not protected.
>
>Is it possible to break the code protection?  I just ask as I don't know if
>it's worth bothering with it, should I ever sell anything with my coding on
>the PIC - probably best so people don't get to know how bad the coding is!! :)
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>
Haha, yes, this is the biggest problem with open source, people can see 
how bad your (or my) coding is :)

Justin.

>Cheers,
>Mark
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