This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --===============60079279535925378== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000900090606040505020604" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000900090606040505020604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit techy fellow wrote: >I understood your point on manufacturer need to protect their investment. I will also do likewise if I am a manufacturer. Unfortunately, in my country, poor after-sales-service is still rampant. This even applicable to big companies !! > >For eg., my Pocket PC speaker is not working. I called the company to purchase a replacement and they refused. They insisted I must send the unit to them to replace even if I can do it myself. Here comes the knife. Checking and Evaluation of the PPC is $49.00. If repair needed, other charges apply. Fair !? I don't think so. Well, I hope manufacturers can pick up something from mistakes made by the movie industry. > > Thats very poor. Not on the subject of micros, but within electronics, I used to send back PCM R/C receivers (worth over $200) to the manufacturer for a service if it had been in a crash and needed calibration and checking. I don't think I was ever charged more than $20 including shipping etc for services. This includes when they have had to replace components on the receivers circuit board, and those accidents which caused the problems were by no means down to the manufacturers fault. > >Highly-pirced = More pirates or compatibles; Reasonably-priced = Lesser pirates or compatibles > >That's Life, too. > > >Jinx wrote: > > > >>I would also like to know how cloning is being done. To me, it >>should be okay to backup your investment. >> >> > >There are plenty of references to copying PICs in the archives - it's >been covered a million times (well, 4 that I can think of) > >Basically, if code protect is set, you're screwed, unless you want >to devote hours of high- or low-tech effort just TRYING to break >in > > > >>The problem is, manufacturer deliberately charge a replacement >>cost of the MCU to about 30% to 40% of the cost of the equipment. >> >> > >Look at it this way - why does a part need replacing in the first place ? > >If it's a faulty unit then you should be entitled to a replacement as a >swap for the original. If damaged by the user then a replacement fee >is fair enough > >AFAIK micros are not covered by the same (contentious) laws that >cover backing up a CD for example. For one thing, copy protection >on a CD is nowhere near as secure as a micro's > > > >>Hence, you are stuck with them as in, you only have 2 choices. Pay >>thru' your nose to get the replacement part or buy a brand new one >> >> > >Unfortunately, yes, you are stuck with those choices. If you were a >manufacturer I think you'd adopt the exact same policy. I'm sure we've >all had a repair which cannot be completed because of an irreplaceable >part or a device that has to be thrown away for a similar reason > >C'est la vie, or as the French would say "That's life" > > >_______________________________________________ >http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >View/change your membership options at >http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Discover all that’s new in My Yahoo! >_______________________________________________ >http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >View/change your membership options at >http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > --------------ms000900090606040505020604 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature 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