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>From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] 
>On Behalf Of Byron A Jeff
>Sent: 12 November 2004 13:42
>To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public.
>Subject: Re: [PIC:] Getting started with PIC's
>
>
>1. Most compilers generate code that's good enough from a execution 
>perspective. Take a look back at the optimizations that Sergio 
>has done on XCSB for example.
>

I agree, XCSB does seem very good.  However there are things you either
cannot do in a HLL or that are very clumsy, typicaly optimised bit twiddling
operations a la Scott Dattalo.

>2. If you overflow code space, simply get a bigger chip. 
>

Not always possible!  Especialy with the small, low pin count devices that
are so popular.

>3. Compilers are never broken! ;-) But even if they are then 
>debugging that is usually outside of the scope of a novice anyway.
>

Not if they knew ASM and could read the list files!  In fact that's how I
learnt assembly on the PIC16 originaly, looking through the compiler
listings and essentialy learning from the very experienced people that wrote
the compiler.

Regards

Mike

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