It's probably not the programmer itself. The actual mechanics of programming a PIC is virtually identical for all PICs. However, the software is another issue. Most of the older programs won't program the newer chips. The trick is finding the software that will match your hardware. There are a fair number of programs that are configurable to support any of the simpler programmers. When you go to some of the more involved programmers, your software choices are reduced. I have found WinPic to work with most of the simpler programmers yet support most chips. Unfortunately, the user interface for WinPic is pretty clumsy and it needs to be run under an administrative user account if you run it on XP. That being said, some of the more complex programmers do get around some operating system issues, so programmers like Wouter's Wisp628 might be a good choice. My own opinion (I know Wouter would disagree) is that these programmers with onboard intelligence need to be viewed as short life types of things, since support for them is limited. On the other hand, Wouter's Wisp and Olin's EasyProg cost less than an inkjet cartridge, so it seems to be to be perfectly valid to consider them a consumable. --McD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Mermin" To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:46 AM Subject: 16f628A programmer > Hello everyone > > I need a rogrammer for the 16f628A thru th RS232 as simple as possible. > Ive found some programmer but they only accept 16f628 ( without the A' ) > > Do you have some ideas ( or sites) ? > thanks > > _______________________________________________ > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist