good deal! if you own it, you own it, i have no problem with that.=20 it's more the situation that has happened for instance with some water departments before (and it was done here in casper) where the good old boys decided to use left hand shut off valves here and there with some little address formula to remember which was which to insure job security, since someone new wouldn't know which shut off valves were "right handed" and which were "left handed", and as i said i know this was at least attempted right here in casper wyoming! now that's a dirty and stupid trick. needless to say when one of the left handed valves is encountered it's replaced immediately, at considerable cost to the city and the residents. and other schemes have been used by some tradesmen in the past. =20 unions are a good thing, but they have become just as corrupt as the old bosses, just as any one familiar with human nature would have expected.=20 still better than it was, but still a long way from good. of course part of the problem is the hiring power big companies have, they often think they can set any rules they want, and often get away with it. they want to hire high-tech people and treat them like temps and then wonder why there is no employee loyalty, well it's a two way street, if you want loyal employees who respect you then the employer needs to respect the employees. some how management people don't seem to understand this principle at most companies, they are really clue less as to why they are hated and despised by their technical employees whom they treat like dirt. thick headed morons, and educated morons rarely realize when they've been stupid and even more rarely do they admit it or change their ways. i'm glad you have a good working environment where your' skills are actually valued appropriately. in my experience working for good people is more important than just the salary and benefits, i'll take a lot less money to work for a good boss and want a lot more to put up with idiotic management and you can guess who i'll stay with longer. Falcon Wireless Tech Support - KF4HAZ wrote: >=20 > Also forgot to mention, our agreement states that I hold the copyright = on All source code and PCB artwork. >=20 > > Actually it is just a matter of he never asked. ------ --=20 =93it is possible to fool all the people all the time=97when government a= nd press cooperate.=EE-George Seldes, 1938 _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist