alan smith wrote: > Mulling over...things. Years ago I used an AT&T chip > for a non-isolated power supply...needed 5VDC for a > PIC in the smallest package so the chip, resistor and > a few caps and it was done. > > Moving forward in life...new project, but more likely > to eventually end up in the hands of consumers, so > will probably have UL testing. > > Thus I need a small power supply, not alot of room so > trying to get away from a transformer. Wall wart is > not an option. Power Integrations has some nice chips > to do this, but if this product, encased in plastic, > with all the HV stuff back 'behind' a faceplace...isnt > the 5VDC actually tied to the AC hot? So perhaps the > best way to ensure safety is use a transformer and isolate. If it's a consumer product it won't pass any test without being isolated. I assume you know what your options are for SMPS topologies? A lot of companies say "screw it" to the power supply and use a wall-wart, especially if they only need 5v. There are some nice small switch-mode wall warts out there. -- -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/ http://nnytech.net/ _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist