> I need to test a series of CAN transceivers on maximum cables lengths for > agiven bitrate (250kbs, 500 meters CAT5) to determine the optimum sample > point and wonder how I best do this. My first though is to use just a RC > low pass filter with R equal to the the cable resistans and C equal to the > capacitance. This will not take the propagation delay into account and I > have no idea on how to simulate that. Will this be to any use at all for > me or do I have to think in a completely different way? If you only want to do this over 500 metres, and the results are important to you, then 2 1000 foot boxes of Cat 5 is a small price to pay for testing it on the real thing. And you can use it afterwards! Even for telephony simulating cable is not just a matter of using a single lumped equivalent. A real cable is a distributed LCR filter and you would need a number of sections to do justice to this. How many to be meaningful in your case I don't know, but 500 metres of Cat 5 does a wonderful job of simulating itself. RM _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist