Hi Peter, Apologies for the delay in the response. Peter L. Peres wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Oct 2004, Sebastian Garcia wrote: > > > Peter L. Peres wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, Sebastian Garcia wrote: > >> > >>> I know that it works doing so. But again, the oven free response is > >>> exponential, and it's impossible to fit in the paste manufacturer's > >>> recommended error margin for the thermal profile. Moreover, the > >>> plateau-shaped profiles were developed at the earlier days of reflow > >>> soldering, when the ovens where provided only with IR heaters. Today, > >>> the recommended profile for convection ovens replaces the plateau zone > >>> with a slope shape. > >> > >> The oven response is essentially linear if the heaters are significantly > >> hotter than the oven (this is true when you turn the heaters full on in a > >> toaster oven). > > > > > > As i said in my first post, i measured the oven temperature step response > > (full power) with thermocouples (in air) and plotted the data... exponential. > > I can understand if you *approximate* as linear the first seconds of the > > exponential, but i see no reason for a linear temperature response in a > > "standard" oven. > > I think the measurement is affected by convection which would explain the > exponential part after a few seconds. Otherwise with the heaters red hot > at 800+ deg C and the object to be heated under 250C it should be fairly > linear. I don't know why you insist with a linear response. Have you obtained a cuasi-linear step response data from your oven? What are the constructive details it? > Hmm, maybe an ir oven is linear, but convection isn't. I don't think so. > By step > response do you mean turning the heaters on or inserting the probe with > the heaters already on ? Turning the heaters on, with the thermocouple in a center point (air), starting from T(amb). > Just curious. Did you try to run only the top heaters vs. only the bottom > vs both ? Both heaters running. > Running only the top heaters should null convection. Why? Can you explain this effect? I can't see it. > This means that you could achieve a linear ramp using the > top heater, then exponential using the bottom one. Again, i can't see the explanation of this behaviour. Regards, S.- _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist