An interesting 50/60 Hz transformer that carries a kw or two and has a big air gap is the Austin Ring Transformer (http://www.austin-insulators.com/radio/xfmr.html). It's commonly used to get AC power onto an RF hot tower to drive the lights on a series fed AM tower. I've always been amazed how they work. You could run a lot of toothbrushes with one of these! Harold -- FCC Rules Online at http://www.hallikainen.com _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist