> Now one step up: remove the max232, connect the cable to the > progger, short the max pins that connect to the proggers > connector, and again verify that an echo exists (and no echo > with the short removed, did you check that too?). Yes, the echo exists with short. Doesn't without short. > Next: max232 in place, apply 5V, remove 16F628, short the > PICs UART pins, check again for echo. Yes, the echo exists with short. Doesn't without short. Please don't bother now. I'll order a readymade one from you shortly. Thanks, Mohit. _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist