I did not see it that way. sometimes I see things here that have me ROTFLMAO as well, but it just seemed to me that because Olin put the mnemonic in a mail he got bumped. Yes he has been pretty vitriolic in the past, but that particular message did not come across to me as anything like that. However the other person certainly came back with a vitriolic response that would certainly (in my book at least) match anything Olin was bumped for, and I am just asking if they also were bumped from the list. ============================================================================ (1) He dared them to ban him. (2) His actions begged them to ban him. (3) They banned him. Olin clearly got banned for "the-straw-that-broke-the-camel's-back." _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist