Quick/brief update. The person that I asked for prayer for survived the current crisis and is highly likely (but never certain) to wind the immediate short term battle. The various responses that I received on and off list were greatly appreciated. A group of friends, family and associated professionals is planning to "gang up on him" and hold a family group conference to see if the until now repetitive crisis pattern can be broken. The reason for his problems is extremely deep rooted and entirely likely to not be amenable to complete recification by anything short of a genuine miracle (even by James' standards :-) ). [[Suffice it to say that it's is exceptionally unlikely that anybody here would wish to be subject to the childhood that he had to go through]]. thanks again Russell McMahon _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist