On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Harold Hallikainen wrote: > So, why leave it to the patent examiner? Publish patent applications for > public review. The patent examiner then reviews the public comments and > allows or disallows the patent. Patent applicants may not like their > applications being published, especially if a patent is not eventually > issued. Those with truly innovative inventions would be granted, so the > publication is just a little earlier. Those whose "inventions" are not > truly innovative may choose to protect their ideas through trade secret > instead of the patent process. This is a good idea, in the spirit of f.ex. aspiring politicians being stopped from running for office if someone brings legal proof they are felons (not ex) etc. But I also think it is too candid. Droves of industrial spies, lawyers, and other types of non-technical persons would swarm over the published applications while real techies would have a strong deja vu feeling and some would act on it. I don't think this would work in today's world. The easiest way out of the hot water for the p.o. (utopical proposal follows) would be to hire a lot of retired engineers and scientists with a relevant past in the industry on a small per-job fee to review patent applications and say nay or aye, leaving further discussions to the more active members of the p.o. and lawyers. This would be a fairly democratic process, the asked people not knowing who else would write what. A one page email would be amply sufficient from each, sent in an electronic form and together with an nda and non-involvement statement (similar to that required from jurors) that would be evaluated by machine. It would have only two choice answers as in 1. don't know 2. I do know, and in that case, write at most 1 page below, quoting at least one actual previous art example (patented or not). In the USA at least this could function as an extension of the juror system used by the courts I think. Obviously the identities of the 'jurors' would be kept secret to prevent tampering by interested parties, and the 'jurors' chosen for the review of a certain patent application would be chosen electronically, and randomly. Just an idea ? Even if it would not be an ultimate solution, the conclusion reached would be more in the spirit of technical/knowledgeable people imho. Peter _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist