Oh my fiend Marcel.... That definitely no Tango.... I'm not a real expert= , but I'm an amateur dancer, can do some steps here and there.=20 You might want to hear for some real tango here: mms://streaming.netizen.com.ar/la2x4 Cheers, Mauricio Jancic Janso Desarrollos Microchip Consultant Program Member (54) 11-4542-3519 info@janso.com.ar www.janso.com.ar =20 >>-----Original Message----- >>From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu=20 >>[mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Rafael Fraga >>Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 4:30 AM >>To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. >>Subject: Re: [OT] Tango (was Venezuela ...) >> >>I am not a tango expert. Even living in Uruguay, I am not=20 >>very found of tango. >>So, please take my opinion just as a personal opinion. >> >>First, the music found at bajofondotangoclub is a kind of=20 >>"new age" version, remixed, cover, etc. If you want tango,=20 >>listen to pure tango. There is a new tendency towards=20 >>"painting" tango with new sounds. This is interesting sometimes . >> >>Tango was born in nineteen century, and is a mixture of music=20 >>from immigrants, mainly italian, spanish, french, polish and=20 >>blacks. It was listened first in the girl bars of the time=20 >>("cabarets" or "cabarutes") and danced by whores ("minas")=20 >>and pimps ("cafishios") there. >>In its origins, it were played just with a guitar, and danced=20 >>between men. >>Then came the short skirts, skirts with a deep cut, and high=20 >>heels that make all this interesting. >>Slowly, it pushed its way higher in society, but I think it=20 >>never got to be an elegant style. It lacked new singers and=20 >>writers, so since about the sixties, it started a slow decay. >>It was displaced as an underground music long time ago. There=20 >>are two radio stations devoted to tango in Montevideo, out of=20 >>about thirty operating. In family parties, usually a couple=20 >>of tangos are played to let their fanatics dance. But if you=20 >>go to somewhere to have dinner and listen to tango, it is=20 >>probably a set up for tourists. I don=B4t know why, but=20 >>japanese people like it very much. >>My personal feeling about the lyrics is that they are=20 >>repetitive, very sad, melancolic. Most of them talk about the=20 >>girl that left you, alone in the cold dark.... lonely as a=20 >>lonely dog... snif snif, your poor mother, snif snif. :-) =20 >>Things relevant to last century immigrants, but quite distant=20 >>for us. On the other hand, some of its melodies are the=20 >>sexiest music I can imagine. It=B4s made to dance in couples,=20 >>even to make love. >>So, forget the lyrics, wich is quite easy because they are=20 >>sang in a spanish dialect, "arrabalero", a kind of slang=20 >>spoken a century ago. In fact, we don=B4t understand it sometimes! >>I suppose this fact, mixed with some movies, made an image of=20 >>"latin lovers dance tango" >> >>There is an old argue between argentinian and uruguayan=20 >>people over who is the originator of tango, were was Gardel=20 >>(supposed the best singer in >>history) born, and a lot of nonsenses alike that make=20 >>headlines when there is nothing interesting to write about.=20 >>For example, one of the most famous tangos, "La Cumparsita",=20 >>was written by an uruguayan, but used by argentinians almost=20 >>as an anthem in world fairs. This kind of things tend to=20 >>start flame wars in the press here sometimes. >> >>When we travel abroad, there is a tendency to think "oh, this=20 >>guy comes from Rio de La Plata, so he loves tango" Next thing=20 >>you hear is a tango playing, and you are obliged to exhibit=20 >>your terrible dancer ability. My advise: not every person=20 >>from here under is a good tango dancer. Statistically, almost none. >> >>On the website there are many great singers. Not tango, but=20 >>great. If you can, listen to something from Drexler. Even if=20 >>you can=B4t understand spanish. >>I must reckon that I am quite biased towards soft rock, pop,=20 >>european style. >> >>Please forgive my english >> >>Rafael Fraga >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Marcel Duchamp >>To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. >>Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:52 PM >>Subject: Re: [OT] Venezuela zero tolerance policy >> >> >>I replied to Carlos vis-a-vis his request for a survey about=20 >>his country. I would hope many will respond. >> >>Now, after reading Rafael Fraga's posting, I am reminded=20 >>about a site I found only last week. I am curious as to what=20 >>Rafael and others might have to say about the music found at: >> >> http://www.bajofondotangoclub.com/ >> >>The site carries this message: >> >>"For Argentina and Uruguay (the countries united -and=20 >>separated- by the R=EDo de la Plata), these are times of=20 >>electricity and tango. Lots of tango. And I don't mean=20 >>tourist tango, I mean real tango, the one that's part of the=20 >>rioplatense blood system, the one that makes us melancholic,=20 >>nostalgic or plain sad. The tango that makes us want to=20 >>dance, laugh and make love. The treasure box for memories too=20 >>hurtful to remember, too sweet to forget." >> >> >>As for me, I like this music very much. Try it yourself! >>MD >> >>ps: you may need shockwave flash installed to access the=20 >>music; I'm not sure. >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>http://www.piclist.com >>View/change your membership options at >>http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>http://www.piclist.com >>View/change your membership options at >>http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist