A thousand dollars for a programmer that seems to be able to do everything my ICD2 can...and not even a manual. There is an electronic manual (which is actually good) but what's driving me crazy is trying to hook the poor thing up to our board's PIC programming port. We ICD'ers are used to the following ritual: 1. MCLR 2. Vdd 3. Gnd 4. RB7 5. RB6 6. (RB3) There is no apparent equivalent listing...Here is what we are told about the Promate III: 1. CLK 2. PASS 3. DATA 4. FAIL 5. LVP/Clock 6. GO 7. V PP 8. V PP 9. VDD 10. Test 11. VDD 12. +5V 13. GND 14. GND I've discovered that Go, Pass, and Fail are "features", decided that VDD is probably preferred over +5, etc. But where is MCLR?? Might be "VPP" but do I feel lucky? I'd rather build my cable only once, and not fry too many of the boss' parts before getting it working. If anyone can shed some light...thanks Barry _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist