> > I'm not sure it applies to this part, but I know the 12F parts > are sensitive to Vcc risetime, which > can cause problems when there is capacitance or other loading on > the supply. > Thank you for the tip Mike. I've checked this with power from the ICD2 - It takes 15us for the Vcc pin to reach 2V, and a further 80us to reach 4.5V. When I use power from the board instead, the waveform of the rise of Vcc is much more drawn out - Vcc takes 1ms to reach 1.4V, then climbs quicker to 2.6V in a further 40us, and then slowly again to 3.3V (full voltage in this configuration) in a further 2.5ms. Maybe this is due to characteristics of the bench power supply. Could these kind of risetimes for Vcc be significant with the erasing/reprogramming problems? Whichever source of power the trouble is the same. Thanks, James _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist