On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:54:27 +0530, you wrote: >> >> I'm not sure it applies to this part, but I know the 12F parts are >sensitive to Vcc risetime, which >> can cause problems when there is capacitance or other loading on the >supply. >> > >I've noticed this, the hard way. With my home made EPIC compatible, I have >no problems doing ICSP on 16FXXXs, but loads of them with 12F parts. Is >there a cure to this besides using *very* short ICSP cables? Use a moderately chunky MOSFET to drive Vcc, so it can get it to the right level quickly. Here's the circuit I use to do in-system programming of 12fxxx parts on Picstart : http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/picstart_isp.pdf This works happily with 10uf capacitance across Vdd _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist