Hi,

I think there is a missing political willingness. IMHO approx. (very
approx.) about a half of people having a driver licence should be
withdrawn because of they are simply not able to drive below an expectable
hazard minimum. It would be a blessing for all the country. BUT: the
problem is that people does not have any (former: no <G>) insight about
their inability. Therefore, this measure would be a political suicide and
no one government dare to do this.

Regards,
Imre

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, James Newtons Massmind wrote:

> Are the people who are killed intentionally any more or less dead than the
> ones killed in accidents?
>
> Dead = Dead
>
> And the point is that accidents can (technically) be prevented. No one has
> figured out how to prevent war. Or hate. Or stupidity. Politicians, moral
> leaders, and educators can only do so much.
>
> But WE, as engineers, have a hope, and a responsibility, to make things
> SAFER.
>
> I don't know if freeways are more or less safe than highways, but in any
> case, trains are safer than cars. Why move from highways to freeways when
> you could move from long range, big, fast cars to small, short range cars
> that can join a train? Oh, I know, its because the chickens are spending all
> their time looking for the fox, and the one or two sane ones who are trying
> to draw attention to the need to avoid the butcher are being totally
> ignored.
>
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Hansen [mailto:john@hansen.net]
> > Sent: 2004 Sep 22, Wed 17:46
> > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public.
> > Subject: RE: [OT] rules, was Yes, I canned Olin again. Focus
> > on the REAL problems
> >
> > I think that this may be getting way off topic, and I won't
> > post on this subject again.  However, I can't let this slide.
> >  Freeways have certainly saved thousands and thousands of
> > lives by moving traffic off old two lane highways that really
> > really are unsafe.  I am not about to "thank" Hitler for
> > saving those lives, however.
> >
> > I do find it fairly amazing that anyone can attempt to draw
> > some kind of equivalency between someone intentionally
> > killing thousands by flying an airplane into an office
> > building and someone losing their life in an accidental
> > collision with a deer (or another car, for that matter).  And
> > lest you classify me as some nutty conservative, I felt the
> > same way when folks talked about Vietnam being not so bad
> > because more people died on the highways in a given year than
> > in Vietnam.  This just seems nutty to me unless you are going
> > to argue that people are being killed on the highways intentionally.
> >
> > My last $.02.
> >
> > John
> >
> > At 05:31 PM 9/22/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Someone told me that Hitler invented the freeway. If that is
> > true, he
> > >may have killed more people with that than in gas chambers.
> > Think about
> > >it. 2.2M in the US alone on the roads, 5 to 6M in the
> > Holocaust over 14 countries.
> > >http://www.deathcamps.info/new_page_7.htm I'm not sure you can find
> > >another
> > >2.7 to 3.7 million road deaths outside the USA, but you might.
> >
> >
> >
>
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