Are the people who are killed intentionally any more or less dead than the
ones killed in accidents?

Dead = Dead

And the point is that accidents can (technically) be prevented. No one has
figured out how to prevent war. Or hate. Or stupidity. Politicians, moral
leaders, and educators can only do so much.

But WE, as engineers, have a hope, and a responsibility, to make things
SAFER. 

I don't know if freeways are more or less safe than highways, but in any
case, trains are safer than cars. Why move from highways to freeways when
you could move from long range, big, fast cars to small, short range cars
that can join a train? Oh, I know, its because the chickens are spending all
their time looking for the fox, and the one or two sane ones who are trying
to draw attention to the need to avoid the butcher are being totally
ignored.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hansen [mailto:john@hansen.net] 
> Sent: 2004 Sep 22, Wed 17:46
> To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public.
> Subject: RE: [OT] rules, was Yes, I canned Olin again. Focus 
> on the REAL problems
> 
> I think that this may be getting way off topic, and I won't 
> post on this subject again.  However, I can't let this slide. 
>  Freeways have certainly saved thousands and thousands of 
> lives by moving traffic off old two lane highways that really 
> really are unsafe.  I am not about to "thank" Hitler for 
> saving those lives, however.
> 
> I do find it fairly amazing that anyone can attempt to draw 
> some kind of equivalency between someone intentionally 
> killing thousands by flying an airplane into an office 
> building and someone losing their life in an accidental 
> collision with a deer (or another car, for that matter).  And 
> lest you classify me as some nutty conservative, I felt the 
> same way when folks talked about Vietnam being not so bad 
> because more people died on the highways in a given year than 
> in Vietnam.  This just seems nutty to me unless you are going 
> to argue that people are being killed on the highways intentionally.
> 
> My last $.02.
> 
> John
> 
> At 05:31 PM 9/22/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> >Someone told me that Hitler invented the freeway. If that is 
> true, he 
> >may have killed more people with that than in gas chambers. 
> Think about 
> >it. 2.2M in the US alone on the roads, 5 to 6M in the 
> Holocaust over 14 countries.
> >http://www.deathcamps.info/new_page_7.htm I'm not sure you can find 
> >another
> >2.7 to 3.7 million road deaths outside the USA, but you might.
> 
> 
> 


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