BillW wrote: >> There's nothing non-ASCII in there. The =B5 is the quoted-printable >> encoding for that character in the ISO-8859-1 font. This is such a >> common standard font that any email software should have at least a >> translation table for it. > Yah, sure. It showed up consistantly in your email as "equals B 5" Of course, that's what I typed. Since I didn't use any non-ASCII characters, my message didn't get encoded as quoted-printable; check out the headers of my message: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Besides, you can type "=B5" ("equals B 5") even in a quoted-printable message, and it will remain "=B5" ("equals B 5"). But if you write an (8 bit) mu character (not "=B5"), this character will become the real "equals B 5" (depending on the character set, of course), and the email program will put the quoted-printable header into the email and the charset information also, so that the email program on the receiving end knows that it needs to decode the =B5 and how to display that 8bit character. That's the standard, and that's how most email clients work. Mine here for example sends out plain 7-bit ASCII messages if there's no 8-bit character, and if I use one, it puts the character set and quoted-printable encoding in the header. (This message, as far as I can see, should go out as ASCII. There are other messages of mine that contain 8bit characters, and they all have the appropriate headers that tell an email client how to decode and display it -- according to the appropriate email standards.) > 8bit characters are not in ascii, and not promised to make it through > smtp or other mail programs... That's what quoted-printable (and other encodings) are there for. An 8-bit text encoded in quoted-printable only contains ASCII characters. All non-ASCII characters are encoded, like in "=B5" ("equals B 5"). This is guaranteed to make it through every smtp channel. I'm not sure what the problem is. What I know, though, is that in places where non-ASCII characters are the norm (most non-English speaking countries; that is, among others, most of Europe and South America), there is no problem writing and receiving emails with characters with accents or such. The standards for that are there, and the programs that work according to those standards are there, too. If they can make it work, the US probably would be up to it, too... :) The standard I'm referring to is RFC 1521: http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc1521.html It seems there may be some header clowns in the loop in this mailing list, though, that modify the email headers -- at least this is what Howard says (his email coming back to him from the list having different headers than the email he sends out). If this is true, this is not nice. Gerhard _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist