>I have an old Picstart programmer If it is not a Picstart Plus then it is not upgradeable. There were some earlier models (IIRC Picstart 16 B/C) which are not upgradeable. These all came as a bare PCB (AFAIK) where the Picstart Plus comes in a plastic case. _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist