At 01:12 PM 9/13/2004 -0400, you wrote: >The discussion on slashdot seemed to center around various siesmograph >readings that are open to the public. Apparently this explosion wasn't >big enough to generate much data except very close to the site. Even a >low yield nuke would have created a larger spike in the readings, though >this is all complicated by an earthquake in Japan several hours later. > >Some wonder if it was a fuel air explosive, but it shouldn't have made a >real crater, though from space a huge black spot that may simply be burned >land could appear to be a crater. > >It takes a lot of effort to create a 2km diameter mushroom cloud without a >nuke, but I can't believe someone in the region wouldn't be screaming >about radiation if such a signature were found. Many, many technical >universities are in that region which would surely notice a change and >would spread in around to other educational and research institutions. >It's not something that the US, China, Korea, Russia, Japan, etc could >keep a secret even if they wanted to, which I can't currently conceive of >a reasonable reason to keep this secret, nevermind trying to form a >coalition to keep it secret. Consider this: http://www.thebulletin.org/issues/1997/nd97/nd97albright.html Apparently a real nuclear test in 1979 and they are still not sure which country/countries were responsible and where exactly it happened. But South Africa and/or Israel and/or Taiwan are suspected. And the fallout effects were minimal and disputable. >The only nice thing about a nuke is the ratio of the size of the weapon to >the size of the explosion. Perhaps the korean's were detonating it above >ground to throw off suspician for an exactly timed underground nuke >test. Perhaps they wanted to see how much ruckus it would create before >really testing their nukes. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps... Is their >official response still "mushroom cloud casued by forest fire"? >Talk about a flash forest fire... Blasting a mountain for a hydroelectric project, they say. Which doesn't address the type of explosion, of course, as Marc suggests. I imagine an atmospheric test would be far less visible seismically than an underground test. Prevailing winds are typically from the North-East world-wide in the Northern hemisphere, so maybe being 20 miles from the sparsely populated mountainous China border area is not that big a deal. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist