Olin, have you thought about a gang programmer at all? My guess is your response will be something along the lines of your primary interest being design and consulting, not production, which is fair enough. Right now we program using a single programmer, and it eats up time which drives me nuts. We found a low cost 4 gang ISP for our PSoC products, and it is amazing. It runs stand alone (once you load the hex file into it), and you just connect everything up, press the button, and 8 LEDs give you a status update. I wish we could find something like that for the PIC. Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 10:26:31 -0400, Olin Lathrop wrote: > A better answer, at least in a production environment, is to use a > programmer specifically intended to tolerate reasonable capacitance on Vdd. > Is this a commercial product? If so, you might want to seriously consider > my ProProg programmer (http://www.embedinc.com/proprog). It can deliver up > to 500mA Vdd, and clamps Vdd to ground thru a 10ohm resistor when it wants > it to be low. It also has analog readback of Vdd, so it can wait until the > level rises of falls sufficiently before proceeding. It should be able to > tolerate 100s of uF on Vdd, but I haven't figured out the exact specs yet. > Part of it is how long you are willing to wait. The 100uF spec on the web > page is just a placeholder for now. _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist