that's some what surprising! i guess it's further proof of some of the flaws in iq test, or perhaps he cheated on that like he did on his national guard duty. in any case, it's possible to have a high iq but be so grossly ignorant that you say and do stupid things, perhaps that is the case here. perhaps it's just his lack of exposure to the real world and other views. perhaps he's just arrogant. i certainly don't appreciate anyone falsifying things to make their point, it suggest that their point isn't valid or that they think we are too stupid to understand the real reasons. in any case, lying to make ones point is reprehensible. maybe bush is just pulling the wool over everyone's eyes doing his dumb act while he is shrewdly and deliberately trying to dismantle the constitution, a far more alarming possibility. or perhaps like some he's just incapable of applying his intelligence for some reason. i've met people with a Ph.D. in physics who were incredibly ignorant about large parts of physics and every thing else and hence made embarrassingly foolish comments. i suspect that may be the case, a lack of a good understanding of history and the views of others coupled with the arrogance to believe one is absolutely right all the time and all who disagree are fools. but i suspect rather that his score was on one of the earlier iq test which were frequently inaccurate with those of normal or better iq as they were originally designed to detect low intelligence rather than measure high intelligence. Russell McMahon wrote: >=20 > > ... the president ... i suspect he's too incompetent for that.. or d= id i > mean another word. >=20 > As far as I can establish, based on information available on the web, > including other people's analyses, the IQ of George Bush is PROBABLY ar= ound > 135 +/- 5. Higher than the IQ of the large majority of the people on th= is > list. Not the smartest US President ever, but certainly not the 'dumbe= st'. > Arguably somewhat brighter than the most loved President of relatively > recent times (whoever that may be :-) ). This "fact" apparently makes s= ome > furious. ----- --=20 Philip Stortz--"In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.=20 Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.=20 Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.=20 Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.=20 Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up." -- Martin Niem=F6ller, 1892-1984 (German Lutheran Pastor), on the Nazi Holocaust, Congressional Record 14th October 1968 p31636. _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist