Some of that seems to be true, although there are examples of groups who are very aggressive being wiped out by cooperation of others. E.g. Germany in WWI and WWII. More often it seems (I'd love to hear more on the subject) that the very aggressive become victims of their own success. E.g. they eat themselves into a famine or run out of room and drowned in their own shit. There was a stunning bit in Discover magazine some time ago about Easter Island and some evidence that its inhabitants simply destroyed their own ecosystem (isolated as they were by the sea) and so died out. Tree huggers (like my wife and I) have been warning of this possibility for a long time. We had better find a way out of the Petri dish (space, undersea, etc.. ) or stop populating pretty quick if we don't want to follow their example. This also reinforces, for me, the idea that meaning is relative to ALL the others in our world. Including people, rocks, etc... If we base our life on transport from gasoline derived from oil, and consume it at a rapid rate, we may find that the oil decides to stop existing (commit suicide or rebel) and leaves us alone in the world. --- James Newton, massmind.org Knowledge Archiver james@massmind.org 1-619-652-0593 fax:1-208-279-8767 All the engineering secrets worth knowing: http://techref.massmind.org What do YOU know? > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu > [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Jake Anderson > Sent: 2004 Sep 06, Mon 07:18 > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: RE: [OT:] Russian forces storm school, captors slip away... > something I find interesting to ponder is, is there something > about the physical constants/makeup of our universe that may > lead to a favouring of one kind of life over another. > Personally it seems the smaller/more efficient and the more > willing you are to kill/eat/do anything to survive the more > your species will prosper. > > personal view > humans have just taken "being mean" to a whole new level and > dressed it up as business. > > _______________________________________________ > http://www.piclist.com > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > _______________________________________________ http://www.piclist.com View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist