> Actually, the lumens per watt is going up. Lumileds says that for a > given power, you're getting about twice the light ever 18-24 months. > Sort of the LED Moore's law. Check out the Lumileds website, I'm sure > they'll have the info you seek. I'd love that to be true. But I suspect that it's not so. Last time I checked a top class LED is more efficient than many incandescent bulbs but not as good as the top tungsten halogens. That was probably 6 months ago. If the efficiency were exponentiatiing we would be abreast the best practice THs now and expect double that by end 2005. I think efficiency is around 6%. Googles ... 1986 - Tungsten halogen 40 watt = 20 lumens/watt = 800 lumens Even at that level a 100 lumen LED (as per original reference) = 5 watts of Tungsten halogen power. Same year - low pressure sodium = 200 lumens per watt or 0.5 watt per 100 lumens. Better than best LEDs now or as proposed in that article. Edison's first bub was 1.4 lumens/watt _______________ Target - > 50 l/w by 2006 for most non-domestic building lights Triphosphor -> Halo phosphate http://www.mtprog.com/approvedbriefingnotes/ModellingEnergySavingsfromMinimumStandardsforCommerciallampefficiency.aspx?kintUniqueID=87 ______________ Type lm/W % light-emitting diode 0.04-20 [6] 0.005%-2.9% 40W tungsten incandescent 12.6 [7] 1.9% 60W tungsten incandescent 14.5 [7] 2.1% 100W tungsten incandescent 17.5 [7] 2.6% glass halogen 16 2.3% quartz halogen 24 3.5% tungsten-halogen 18-25 [6] 2.6%-3.6% 13W twin-tube fluorescent 56.3 [1] 8.2% compact fluorescent 45-60 [4] 15%-32% [3] xenon arc lamp 30-150 [5] 4.4%-22% mercury-xenon arc lamp 50-55 [5] 7.3%-8% high-temperature incandescent 35 [2] 5.14% ideal blackbody radiator 95 [2] 14% [7] ideal white light source 242.5 [2] 36% monochromatic 556nm source 680 [7] 100% http://www.campusprogram.com/reference/en/wikipedia/l/li/light_bulb.html _______________________________ Sulphur lamps. 150 lumens /watt Not yer average bulb. http://www.thekrib.com/Lights/sulphur.html Better technical comment. Good pictures. 135,000 lumen from a golfball sized bulb - (and 1400 watts of RF to drive it) (= 96 l/W) http://www.sulfurlamp.com/tech.htm Note - for the period that you heat your home there is no point in having energy saving light sources unless capital cost is lower than alternatives. RM -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body