Yow! The National Electric Code sez that only one panel in a building = may have a bonding jumper from Neutral to ground. There also can be = only one connection from ground (ground rods and such) to the main = panel. You may have many grounding devices (ground rod, cadweld to = building steel, or wire to concrete rebar) but this grounding system may = connect to the electrical system at only one point. The reason is, just = like people have mentioned, ground loops. They affect more than signal = wiring. =20 -- Lawrence Lile, P.E. Electrical and Electronic Solutions Project Solutions Companies www.projsolco.com 573-443-7100 ext 221 > -----Original Message----- > From: M. Adam Davis [mailto:adampic@UBASICS.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:45 AM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [OT:] Wiring detached garage (reprise) >=20 > I would bond them together. There will be a ground loop, but if you > don't bond them then neutral will be several or dozens of volts away > from ground - not good. >=20 > The problem gets worse with an intermittent or poor ground. I used an > extension cord to power a computer across a basement once. The ground > was bad somewhere along the line, and the computer case ended up > floating and giving a nasty shock to anyone who touched it. >=20 > If you bond the ground wire, the ground loop stays in wiring and not = in > equipment (and people) if you don't bond it then you have a potential > problem since the ground loop may terminate in one of more pieces of > electrical equipment (or they may push ground and neutral further = apart). >=20 > Treat the remote panel like a regular circuit breaker box - ground = rod, > bonded neutral. >=20 > I am not a licensed electrician, though, so follow my advice at your = own > peril. >=20 > -Adam >=20 > Matt Redmond wrote: >=20 > >Please no flaming about inspectors, etc... that we got off-topic on = last > time (the 'what cable gauge?' discussion)! I have another question = about > wiring my detached garage - this one is about grounding. > > > >The way I read things, I have two acceptable choices when it comes to > grounding in the detached garage. They are: > > > >(a) Run H-H-N-G from main panel to garage. Do NOT bond N-G in the = remote > panel. > > > >(b) Run H-H-N from main panel to garage. DO bond N-G in the remote > panel. > > > >In either case the garage gets its own earth ground. > > > >Any opinions on which is the 'betterer' approach. Any advantages to = one > over the other? I'm already going to be running 3-conductor cable + > ground - any reason not to use (a)? > > > >Thanks! > > > >-matt redmond > > > >-- > >http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > >(like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics >=20 > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004 >=20 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004 =20 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics