Stealing your thread for a somewhat related question. I want to use a 220V 30A dryer outlet (no longer used since we have a gas dryer) for a subpanel in an _attached_ garage. I want 2x 120V 20A circuts for a table saw, air compressor, etc. After turning off the breaker I removed the outlet and found H-H-N (no ground). Sounds like I might be outta luck. But my house is built on a concrete slab. I'm fairly certain that the wiring for this circuit in in conduit as opposed to UG type cable. I will verify this when I cut out the sheetrock. Would it be a bad idea and therefore unsafe to use the conduit for ground? Any idea if it would have been code in Southern California in 1964 to require that the conduit be a reliable (low impedance) ground? Thanks, David > The point is, NEVER use the ground circuit for normal return > currents in place of the neutral circuit, which is what the > improper installation in effect does. Ground circuits ideally > have low impedance to the system ground, but little to no normal > return current flow (what should be neutral current in single > phase power circuit). -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics