Hi, what does it mean (a VERY primitive approach)? IMHO every information could be described as a finite sequence of bits. Destroying this would mean to increase the entropy to the highest possible maximum (e. g. by mean to separate all 0-s and 1-s). Not destroy would mean for me that subsequences of this bit sequence may remain intact or only some bits of the would be disturbed. It is like a document shredder: the more the distance between knives, the bigger the chunk of information remains intact. However, I'm afraid, if the context is not known - e. g. you does not know the language and the coding system - then there is no chance the regain the real information. So for me Hawking's statement is rather of particular importance. I imagine a black hole really like a big shredder. Maybe I am wrong. But I do not want to meet such a beast in this life. Deterioration of any kind is nothing other than increase of entropy. It is a hard job (e. g. learning) to decrease it. Imre On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Russell McMahon wrote: > > even with our best instruments we are still deaf and > > blind in terms of being aware of "reality" and the universe. we don't > > know jack! > > > > Russell McMahon wrote: > > > > So True > > Shades of non causality. I find replies from me which I haven't even written > yet :-). > Actually, it was Phil (dark matter or not). > Not that it matters, as I agree in principle with the sentiment. > FWIW (not much) I actually said: > > > [OT:] Hawking now says black holes don't destroy all information > > Good news for worm hole travellers :-) > > RM > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu